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Most overrated fictional character?
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Sjk8	Aug 14 2014, 11:16 AM Post #1
史上最強の孫悟空 Posts: 967 Group: Member Member #8,358 Joined: September 29, 2012 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ Abridged Favourite Manga Dragon Ball - One Piece - Attack on Titan	Who is, according to you, the most overrated fictional character? Personally, I'd easily say Superman Prime One Million.
	*A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has even a chance to get its pants on* *Never argue with ignorant people, because they drag you down to their level and then they beat you with experience*

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Sjk8	Aug 15 2014, 10:37 AM Post #16
史上最強の孫悟空 Posts: 967 Group: Member Member #8,358 Joined: September 29, 2012 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ Abridged Favourite Manga Dragon Ball - One Piece - Attack on Titan	ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Aug 14 2014, 11:08 PM The creator of Supes stated Prime 1,000,000 was the second strongest last I checked. Link? Because I've never found anywhere this famous statement from Grant Morrison about SP1M being second only to the Presence. Also, the Presence must be pretty weak if SP1M is the closest to it/him in power. Anyway, all the other points still stand: average fanboys consider him the strongest version of Superman (while actually he isn't even the second strongest) and close to Presence himself (which is hilarious), making up feats he never even dreamt to do on panel. What I know for sure is that Grant Morrison considers the idea, the concept of Superman (not Superman physically as character, but what he represents) to be ahead of everyone/everything, even the author himself, and he is right about that, but stil, it has nothing to do with how powerful SP1M is. Overrating to the rescue!
	*A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has even a chance to get its pants on* *Never argue with ignorant people, because they drag you down to their level and then they beat you with experience*


~~GrooseStrikesBack~~	Aug 15 2014, 11:01 AM Post #17
Posts: 4,614 Group: Suspended Member #6,508 Joined: July 20, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Steve Austin Show: Unleashed. What Browser do you use? Can o Whoop Ass. Favourite Manga Family Friendly Version of the Steve Austin Show.	Superman IMO.



TheACE	Aug 16 2014, 02:35 PM Post #18
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Here's one that will garner me some hate: Vegetto. I don't think I have to say anything else really, Vegetto. I didn't used to hate him before I got on the internet.
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Sjk8	Aug 17 2014, 10:27 AM Post #19
史上最強の孫悟空 Posts: 967 Group: Member Member #8,358 Joined: September 29, 2012 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ Abridged Favourite Manga Dragon Ball - One Piece - Attack on Titan	TerrorOfPerfection Aug 15 2014, 11:01 AM Superman IMO. More than Superman, I'd say that the whole of comic books characters are overrated, or, even better, it's the comic book fans who overrate them. In fact, it is always said that DBZ fanboys are ignorants about other works (which is averagely true), but, actually, comicstans are even worse than them: they don't know anything about DBZ or mangas in general, and, for them, every character who is from a comic book wins by default. I think the good way is to know both comics and mangas, and, generally, to always know what you are talking about when you enter a discussion: for example, I personally read the whole Final Crisis (magnificent piece of work, by the way) and I can assure you that half of the cast would get easily and seriously wiped out by Raditz; at the same time, nothing can prevent me from admitting that there are also characters who would solo the DB franchise on a daily basis, without problems (for example, just for telling a name from Final Crisis, the Time Trapper). TheACE Aug 16 2014, 02:35 PM Here's one that will garner me some hate: Vegetto. I don't think I have to say anything else really, Vegetto. I didn't used to hate him before I got on the internet. I personally love, absolutely love both Gogeta and Vegetto, and I think they are two of the coolest and most powerful characters I've ever seen (in general, not only in DB); actually, I think that the fight of Gogeta in Fusion Reborn is the best one I've ever seen, and Gogeta himself was simply supreme in that appearance. Being said that, anyway, I have to say that if one of them is overrated on the Internet, that one is Gogeta, because his fanbase thinks he is as strong (if not even stronger) as Vegetto when, actually, he isn't even close. Edited by Sjk8, Aug 17 2014, 10:28 AM.
	*A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has even a chance to get its pants on* *Never argue with ignorant people, because they drag you down to their level and then they beat you with experience*


PG14	Aug 20 2014, 10:27 PM Post #20
Posts: 101 Group: Member Member #11,256 Joined: April 24, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Favourite Manga Don't have any	Sjk8 Aug 14 2014, 06:17 PM Ok guys, I appreciate your efforts and your explanations, but I bet all the characters you said aren't as overrated as Superman Prime One Million, and here is why: SP1M is powerful yes (he spent more than 15000 in the Sun and gained many different abilities by travelling across the universe for many centuries; he empowers from the Super Sun the whole Superman Dinasty and he also possesses the last GL ring of his universe) but not NEARLY as powerful as average fanboys make him out to be. Indeed: - They say his speed is infinite --> false: he couldn't save Atom's dimension because things happened too fast even for him (literally stated by Superman himself). - They say he destroyed the universal threat Solaris --> false: yes, he defeated him, but Solaris was already nearly killed by Superman One Million (Kal Kent); he also used the GL in order to do this feat. Not very impressive. - They say he created a universe --> LOL false: in fact he simply pulled Atom to a different universe through the universal gate and then said "Welcome to my Universe". - They say he has 5-D Imp powers and he is omnipotent --> false: the 5-D Imps entered the Superman dynasty after Superman has already existed; for the same reason he needed the powers of a 5-D Imp Superman (Lzyxm Ltpkz) in order to bring back Lois (not to mention that he also needed her DNA, supplied by Kyle Rayner, which makes the feat even less impressive). Also, nothing on panel states he isn't affected anymore by magic and Kryptonite. Omnipotent my candy butt. - They say he recreated Krypton --> false: Hourman with the Worgolog did it. - They say he was the 2nd most powerful being in DC, only behind the Presence --> false: probably a fanmade statement. - They say he reached the Source Wall --> false: Superman only says he reached the edge of the Multiverse, the Source Wall was never specifically mentioned nor implied on panel. So, let's see if someone can beat this. So how powerful IS Superman Prime One Million, really?



Goddess Ultimecia	Aug 20 2014, 10:36 PM Post #21
Posts: 10,145 Group: RP Moderator Member #8,473 Joined: October 26, 2012 Gender Male Country None	Dun know, he's treated as pretty strong. I think he punched time forward 70 years or something like that before sun dipping, but you might need Sjk8 for more clarification on that.
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Sjk8	Aug 21 2014, 09:37 PM Post #22
史上最強の孫悟空 Posts: 967 Group: Member Member #8,358 Joined: September 29, 2012 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ Abridged Favourite Manga Dragon Ball - One Piece - Attack on Titan	PG14 Aug 20 2014, 10:27 PM Sjk8 Aug 14 2014, 06:17 PM Ok guys, I appreciate your efforts and your explanations, but I bet all the characters you said aren't as overrated as Superman Prime One Million, and here is why: SP1M is powerful yes (he spent more than 15000 in the Sun and gained many different abilities by travelling across the universe for many centuries; he empowers from the Super Sun the whole Superman Dynasty and he also possesses the last GL ring of his universe) but not NEARLY as powerful as average fanboys make him out to be. Indeed: - They say his speed is infinite --> false: he couldn't save Atom's dimension because things happened too fast even for him (literally stated by Superman himself). - They say he destroyed the universal threat Solaris --> false: yes, he defeated him, but Solaris was already nearly killed by Superman One Million (Kal Kent); he also used the GL in order to do this feat. Not very impressive. - They say he created a universe --> LOL false: in fact he simply pulled Atom to a different universe through the universal gate and then said "Welcome to my Universe". - They say he has 5-D Imp powers and he is omnipotent --> false: the 5-D Imps entered the Superman dynasty after Superman has already existed; for the same reason he needed the powers of a 5-D Imp Superman (Lzyxm Ltpkz) in order to bring back Lois (not to mention that he also needed her DNA, supplied by Kyle Rayner, which makes the feat even less impressive). Also, nothing on panel states he isn't affected anymore by magic and Kryptonite. Omnipotent my candy butt. - They say he recreated Krypton --> false: Hourman with the Worgolog did it. - They say he was the 2nd most powerful being in DC, only behind the Presence --> false: probably a fanmade statement. - They say he reached the Source Wall --> false: Superman only says he reached the edge of the Multiverse, the Source Wall was never specifically mentioned nor implied on panel. So, let's see if someone can beat this. So how powerful IS Superman Prime One Million, really? Superman Prime One Million is very powerful. Regarding his name "Prime", he has not to be confused with Superboy/man Prime: P1M is "our" Superman from the 21th century, who left Earth and traveled across the universe until the 700th century (during his trip, he learnt a lot of not specified abilities from other civilizations), then, from 700th to 867th century, he sundipped; Superboy Prime is a "mad" and more powerful version of normal Superman from Earth Prime. I personally don't question his powers, indeed his physical abilities should be nearly non quantifiable, I question the fact people give him feats he never remotely displayed on panel, and that's what I wrote in my previous post: that's why, while he is very powerful, he still is absurdly overrated by average fans. Also, I don't think he is even the second most powerful Superman: in fact, Pre-Crisis Superman merged with the Sword of Superman was literally one with the Universe (even if he declined that kind of power afterwards) and thus more powerful than Prime One Million (unless he really possesses a fraction of powers of the Source). At the end of the day, the best feat of Prime One Million is him being the "battery" which empowers the whole Dynasty of Superman, and remember that, among this Dynasty, there is Superman One Million (Kal Kent) who held a galaxy with his force vision for few seconds, and who has been able to punch thorugh time, and Superman Prime One Million is so far above this level that the said Superman One Million and the whole future JLA are empowered by a fraction of his powers.
	*A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has even a chance to get its pants on* *Never argue with ignorant people, because they drag you down to their level and then they beat you with experience*


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